Hell, I love achievements. They give you an additional push to squeeze a little more out of your purchase. The only incentive may be a pat on the back, but that's good enough for me.

Yep, I like 'em.. and from a development standpoint there's no reason not to include them.

As long as they aren't boring ;)

I agree, something so simple keeps me playing just a few more levels of that single-player game I didn't like so much, allowing me to find out I enjoyed it more than I thought or atleast get my money's worth.

I'll bet it's classified as an "expansion."

nah i just wanted to say that

Is that even possible?

There is everything from an achivment for giving 10 people hugs, to exploring the land, to killing bosses, etc. Something for everyone with these.

But is there any point to them? There's already collectible stuff to show what you've accomplished.

Surely achievements are just artificial collectibles that games tack on to add some sense of persistent accomplishment. WoW already has that in spades.

I guess it might be fun for a day or so until everyone has poop-socked them all.

Seems like an on-the-cheap way to expand the game to me.

you make a good point.. GuildWars has a lot of fluff titles as I refer to them but it has a titles that directly impact the power level of skills. Some would call this broken but the grind for them leads to more than simply letters under your feet... So are these WoW achievements merely fluff, or are some more useful? Time will tell I suppose.

Star Wars Galaxies did it before CoH

I thought we were talking about relevant games.

ZING!

P.S. I was tempted to go with a 'your mom' joke instead but we haven't been formally introduced.

Well, I'm batman

.... what?

I've been clean for about a year as well, and the idea of achievements is something to be feared, at least by me.

Blizz, seriously... guys? I thought we were over this already. I'm doing fairly well with my WoW-free life so... please? Stop trying to draw me back to the void!

They are quite easy in Never Winter nights.

I swear I posted a witty (read: crappy) response to your post a few hours ago, but no amount of refreshing the page will verify its existence.

This comments system is more and more wonky all the time :-/

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+1(x2) aristokrat

@dark_inchworm: :( I'm sure laughs would have been had by all.

What would you gain if the game didn't exist any more? I don't play the game but I don't think you'd gain much other than the fact that you wouldn't see it on Joystiq or in stores. We both know you can just easily walk by or skim over it though, right?

Something with 12-13million subscribers isn't going to die anytime soon.

Actually, I'm glad the game is around. This game existing means that Blizzard can pour basically all the resources it wants into developing Star Craft II and Diablo III without worrying too much about going over budget.

Mike M. wins this round. Say what you will about WoW - I enjoy it, myself - but it's putting money into things that will almost certainly kick our asses. And if you can't appreciate Starcraft II or Diablo III, well, you and I will have to agree to disagree.

Well, it is going to be wrath of the lich king, in the cold...winter setting, seems to fit the holidays.

A festivus for the rest of us!

By the way, I heard from my son that your company stinks.

... it already does...

There's not story or lore in WoW. It's all numbers and talents.

WoW does have a story and lore.

Just because you don't read quests and NPC dialog doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Cutting 4 cities, and 4 classes: WAR

An almost total combat redesign because it was unfun: WAR

Being delayed well over a year: WAR

If you have played Warhammer you would know the things they have stolen from wow are far greater than a few things that may, or may have not been influenced by Warhammer.

Warhammer Online has issues, and there are ones that are not simple fixes. And with EA breathing down their necks, cutting content in a nearly arbitrary fashion at this point means when this game does at last launch at the end of this year, it is not going to be in a state where anyone in their right mind would consider fun.

War had a chance to catch some people tired of wow, but with wotlk looking like it will beat it to market, and the state the game is currently in I have a feeling it will do even worse than AoC and it's rapidly declining numbers. Read an E3 preview of warhammer anywhere? notice how none of them are overly positive about the game? And this is the gaming press that will praise a turd if it means getting a one on one interview or exclusive.